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Post by TRow on Jan 16, 2005 19:46:59 GMT -5
Welcome to the Official XPS GEN 1& 2 Overclocking Guide===================================== Continue Reading this Discussion for the Text and Illustrated Guides to Overclocking the XPS Gen1 &2. ===================================== Warnings:*Not Responsible for Any Damage *EXTR3M3 AFTERMARKET COOLING SOLUTIONS REQUIRED *Ambients Below 68F Recommended *IDE BOOT HDD ONLY{NOT SATA!} *Some Way to Measure Temps, and Benchmarks (CPU-Z, 3Dmark03,MotherBoard Monitor ,ATi Tool,etc)
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Post by Musabi on Jan 19, 2005 20:50:33 GMT -5
Um.................................................................
I have this, but when I go to 'overclocking' there isnt any Intel boards... am I doing something wrong?
I knwo you cant overclock, but still....
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Post by crusier on Jan 20, 2005 12:10:49 GMT -5
hmmmssss......look deeper into the abyss...and ye may see.....other paths to your goal.
hint...speedfan is not the way to go
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Post by TRow on Jan 20, 2005 19:49:31 GMT -5
Intel-Made Motherboards do not support OC'n, but 3rd party software...... PLL's are the key. Long time Cruise, hey whats the PLL on the Gen1? I lost the .txt during a reformat. Thanks. Answer to Riddle: CPUCool[glow=green,6,300]T.RoW[/glow]
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Post by crusier on Jan 21, 2005 13:01:52 GMT -5
Text Version v.10 *See Page 2 for Illustrated Version
1.Open CpuCool,Let FUlly Load
2.Select Functions TAB
3.Select Change FSB
4.Click "I Don't Know"
5.On Next Screen PLL Manufacturer ICS PLL Type: 952603
6.Click Fine Tuning
7.Adjust the FSB via [+] or [-] Buttons
8.Click Set Frequency
9.Exit All The Way Out
10.Use Normal Windows Restart (Non Power Off).
11.Expect some delays on both the Shut down and Restart as XP is Re-Adjusting System Parameters due to the Detected CPU Speed change.======================================= Background Information & Pre-CautionsThe GEN1 PLL Chip Pictured on Page 1 is an ICS 952601***. The Chip is Located Directly Between the NorthBridge and the Rear Exhaust Fan. It looks like a small Ram Chip.
For CPUCool to Work Properly YOU MUST SELECT ICS 952603***. This is to gain program access to the "Fine Tune FSB Option" when you Configure CPUCool.
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Choosing ICS 952623 Locks you into a use "Fine Tune FSB Option" Only Mode. Beware as it's using an undocumented approach to Accessing the "Fine Tune FSB Options" (eg.It's Not supposed to be there) and the other system clocks aren't locked or adjustable. [/size] As a consequence you can go out of range for PCI/AGP etc....(eg lockup or trash your hdd data) . I manage to get thru most everything with the 2.8 here at 215 to 233 FSB settings. It depends a lot on the evironment and component temps. Using the Graph on MBM5 you can see the Increased CPU Temp and change in the rising and falling ramps while running Full Load Tests.
SATA HDD's are very very critical on clocks...for Best Results use IDE HDD for Boot.********************** You can expect a different clock module used in the gen3 and gen4 systems. ********************** Upon experiencing a Lock Up Kill the Power at the Power Plug to Force the System to do a Complete Power Up Reset. And by all means Dont USE Auto StartUp at BOOT, Set it Manually Each Time! ! !glhf[/size]
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Post by crusier on Jan 21, 2005 19:57:48 GMT -5
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Post by crusier on Jan 21, 2005 20:02:34 GMT -5
See it here ( you can read the chip marking hehe )
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Post by crusier on Jan 21, 2005 20:08:22 GMT -5
I managed to run sisoft sandra at 238fsb but the system failed to restart. Mind you i had the window open and the rear of the xps chassis poked up to the opening for 'mother nature assisted cooling'. I did indeed watch for condensation!!!!
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Post by TRow on Jan 21, 2005 23:29:36 GMT -5
What version of CPUCool are you using?
Everytime I open CPU Cool the program either crashes, or locks my system. WIll disabling oB NIC help? All im looking for is 213FSB X 16 Multiplier = 3.4GHZ
I tired the CPUFSB version too, and that was complete sys. lock up when I exe.
T.RoW
P.S. I use Mozilla Too, the Tab Bar is priceless!
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Post by crusier on Jan 22, 2005 1:49:51 GMT -5
cpucool9.exe Did you find out what clock chip your system is using?
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Post by TRow on Jan 22, 2005 12:02:03 GMT -5
cpucool9.exe Did you find out what clock chip your system is using? The latest version of CPUCool9 is 7.3.5, which I think may be bugged up. Ill try one last time.
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Post by crusier on Jan 22, 2005 12:37:32 GMT -5
Upon starting the program give it time to scan the system...ditto to get the function drop down menu.
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Post by crusier on Jan 22, 2005 13:05:45 GMT -5
1. Open CPUCool, GIVE IT TIME TO READ THE SENSORS OR IT WILL CRASH! ! !
2. Here is CPUCool Ready to Go and Reading Sensors and Information.
3.Select the "FUNCTIONS" Tab, then Select "Change Front Side Bus/Change CPU Speed"
4.When Prompted for MotherBoard Manufacturer Select: I DONT KNOW
5.Select the ICS Number from the Pull Down Menu. For XPS Gen 1 and Gen 2: ICS 952603 This Number Will Unlock Options To Come. Though the Number We Use is Different than the XPS ICS Chip, 952603 PLL is the Unlock Code For this To WORK!
6.AFTER, you have Selected ICS 952603, Click the "FINE TUNING" Tab toward the Middle of the Page.
7.Select OK to Continue
8. CHECK THE BOX Marked "Use Frequency "Fine 1" in CpuCool. This is like a profile manager basically. **The [+] Button Adjust FSB in Small increments, the [+10] button Adjusts the FSB in Large increments. Use them Wisely.
9.Once youve Adjusted the FSB, Click "FREQ SET" then OK to Confirm.
10.Once you Click OK From Step 9, Click the "OK" Button in Upper Right-Hand Corner. Then Exit CPU Cool using Exit Button. RESTART PC[/b] 11. Confirm Overclock on Restart Information on CPUCool and Chipset [/size] [glow=blue,6,300]Illustrations & Ballz:Cruiser
Editorial & HTML : TRoW[/glow]
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Post by crusier on Jan 22, 2005 13:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by TRow on Jan 22, 2005 13:29:21 GMT -5
Patience was never a virtue for me...Your right it needs a little time to load up. =================== Mission Success!
Load Temps are Exactly the Same as before, all systems nominal. But more testing needs to be done.
I also Ran 3Dmark03 as a pre-mature test bed for the CPU Test and for Temp readings. My FPS on the CPU Tests went up 10FPS and 1.3FPS respectively.
Really not much to it, besides waiting for the Program to load. Now if only we could tighten up these Ram timings...hehe. Thanks again, Cruiser.
[glow=blue,6,300]T.RoW[/glow]
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Post by crusier on Jan 22, 2005 23:13:55 GMT -5
It has to be done via the fine tunning. The actual pll chip ics952601 doesn't have all the other preset frequenciesor the expanded bytes (registers). What your doing is setting the chip to the 952603 or 952607 to gain a byte offset in an area supposedly not there in the 952601. The non power off reset lets windows reconfigure as it senses the cpu speed change. A physical power off sequence does a hardware reset to clear it all. ICS 952601 PDFICS 952607 PDFThe only info I found on the ics952693 was via bios settings available on various motherboards.
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Post by TRow on Jan 23, 2005 0:04:54 GMT -5
Temps during HL2 and UT2004 Loads. Ambients 68F. Ive experienced 2 Lockups. 1. When accessing Speedfan while CpuCool menu program was running. Possible sensor conflict due to user error:D. **Remedy: Back to good old MBMonitor 5.3.7** 2. Locked up during UT2004 game but my Ambients were approx. 75F. Most likely due to heat related issue caused by user error. **Open Window** Have not had problems since lowering Ambients, and using MBM. 3DMark03 CPU Test Before and After. Test Final Score is skewed because the 3.2Ghz test used Bilinear Filtering(Non Default) and the 3.4Ghz test used Optimal Filtering Max Aniso 4x(Default). [glow=red,6,300]T.RoW[/glow]
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Post by TRow on Jan 23, 2005 1:22:30 GMT -5
3DMark05 Comparison
*Test Settings were Default for Both tests. *******************OVERCLOCKED*******STOCK***********
Update on Crash Free Testing. Ambients AVG: 69F
T.RoW
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Post by crusier on Jan 23, 2005 4:42:28 GMT -5
I just used the 215 as an example as it fit within Trow's desire to get his 3.2 to 3.4. I have managed to get better than 215 hehe... but it definitely craps out in the 236+ range. I used mothernature for cooling to get all the chassis temps way down ( open window in cold winter weather with the rear of the chassis pushed up against the window opening ). Major issue there is the dew point ( temp where moisture starts to condense all over the systems internals )....the benchs seem to indicate varied results ( benchmarks ) independant of a higher or lower oc. I assume this is just the inter-reltionships of the clocks. 233 seems nice here...running some slower fsb's can sometimes generate more errors....go figure....the memory sticks here are infineon rated cas 3 at 200mhz and running 8-3-3-3 timmings. I ran across the oc awhile back at www.aaltonen.us/forums/dell systems.
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Post by TRow on Jan 23, 2005 13:28:49 GMT -5
As I recall sata is very critical on clocks... the system here uses an ide hdd. Im sure Cruiser can expand on this, but has something to do with Write errors to Disk because of new BUS parameters. SATA is more prone to Failure than IDE. T.RoW EDIT: It might work if we Swapped CPU's, that would be a good way to isolate the problem ;D
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