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Post by dano104 on Jun 21, 2004 18:37:00 GMT -5
After I receive my ordered parts, I will also be installing The arrow head Dell faceplate on an upward opening hinge. I will have the option to open the front up or closing based on system demand. ( sounds tacky huh?)
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Post by TRow on Jun 22, 2004 20:44:50 GMT -5
On my XPS, there a Screw that secures the "Flip Tab" at the bottom. And then 2 "plastic bolt-like" protrusions that secure the Top Part of the Shield.
If you just remove the Flip Tab Screw, then you can remove the Shield at anytime, by simply lifting the flip tab slightly, and pullin the shield away from the Flip Tabs Housing to Free the Shield.
I dont know if your XPS is the same, because it seems Dell has incorporated a diff. chassis design for the Gen 2.
Hope this helps.
T.ROW
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Post by bubbadubba on Jun 23, 2004 2:01:02 GMT -5
I wish I never tinkered with my face plate... I have yet to order a new one. Aw well if the kids get their little fingers in there I don't think it will hurt all that much?? ;D ;D Will it?
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Post by TRow on Jun 23, 2004 21:20:07 GMT -5
If you did manage to get a "New Shield", would it fit WITHOUT any modification to the shield or it's respective housing?
T.RoW
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Post by bubbadubba on Jun 24, 2004 10:07:13 GMT -5
Oh yes it fits fine...I would take a picture of the old one to prove it but its too embarrassing. I really messed up the old one. The 120mm fan does fit in between the face plate and the metal mesh grill. BTW TRow I ordered a Dell 19" Ultrasharp FP today. I just couldn’t stand you having 3+ inches more than me. So I settled on the 19", 1 inch difference, I can live with that...
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Post by dano104 on Jun 24, 2004 11:56:52 GMT -5
Ok thanks bubba, now I'm getting jealous, with my wee little 17". Bubba are just buying straight out, or are you trading in the 17"?
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Post by dan39 on Jun 24, 2004 13:16:48 GMT -5
while you're doing your mods, you might want to consider taking the heatsink off and lapping it. might not make a huge diff, but its something to do. sometimes it can be significant if the original contact surface is not perfectly smooth. even with a good heatsink like a thermalright, you still want to lap it, so i imagine theres potential to make the dell heatsink more efficient. also i assume xps's use a thermal pad like the rest of dells, take it off and use better thermal compound like artic silver 5, that should help transfer the heat better to the heatsink and then make the hsf be more productive in its cooling.
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Post by dano104 on Jun 24, 2004 13:20:29 GMT -5
To be honest with you, I'm not exactly sure how to lap a heatsink. In reference to the thermal compound, AS5 was my choice.
Thanx
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Post by bubbadubba on Jun 24, 2004 13:37:16 GMT -5
Dano,
Bubba bought it straight out. Bubba likes having two monitors to do his video editing on! ;D ;D
Seriously, I might do the eBay thing to get rid of the 17", but it will be nice spaning the desktop. Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 is what I'm using now. I like to move all the tools to one screen, and keep the timeline on the other. Doing this helps with speeding up the process.
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Post by dano104 on Jun 24, 2004 13:51:26 GMT -5
Some people have all the luck.
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Post by TRow on Jun 24, 2004 16:55:04 GMT -5
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Post by bubbadubba on Jun 25, 2004 22:14:33 GMT -5
T.Row, Question: If the difference between my "case temp" and my "CPU temp" is 3, maybe 4 degrees C, than what benefit would there be to "lap in" my heat sink? How much closer can the CPU temp approach the case temp? Or after lapping in my heat sink, making the heat sink more efficient, would I see a lower CPU temp which would then bring down the case temp, keeping the same temp spread (is that referred to as a delta?) between the two temp readings? Man that's a mouth full, but I hope you get the jest of it? P.S. What do you do with the silicon waffers that don't pass inspection? Frisbe anyone?
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Post by TRow on Jun 25, 2004 22:47:00 GMT -5
T.Row, Question: If the difference between my "case temp" and my "CPU temp" is 3, maybe 4 degrees C, than what benefit would there be to "lap in" my heat sink? How much closer can the CPU temp approach the case temp? Or after lapping in my heat sink, making the heat sink more efficient, would I see a lower CPU temp which would then bring down the case temp, keeping the same temp spread (is that referred to as a delta?) between the two temp readings? Man that's a mouth full, but I hope you get the jest of it? P.S. What do you do with the silicon waffers that don't pass inspection? Frisbe anyone? It won't make a dramatic difference, maybe a 1 or 2 degrees, and that's only at higher than normal ambient temps. I'd say that changing the heatsink, for a aftermarket one that is lapped would make a bigger difference. But lapping the XPS H.sink you wouldn't notice much of a difference. Peace of mind, is another issue. T.RoW
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Post by dan39 on Jun 26, 2004 1:12:55 GMT -5
lapping your heatsink's benefit is dependent on the condition of the hs itself, its already pretty smooth it wont be much change, but not all companies are equal and not all do a great job of making for a polished surface. the reason you use thermal compound is to fill the tiny ridges etc between the cpu and hs, this is obviously to better the heat transfer, if you lap your hs to a nice mirror finish, you would then use less thermal compound as there are less imperfections. if you maybe want to do this, you could buy this kit. even if you got a new hs you could lap it to and feel extra good about yourself. www.easypckits.com/
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Post by TRow on Jun 26, 2004 12:16:34 GMT -5
P.S. What do you do with the silicon waffers that don't pass inspection? Frisbe anyone? Sorry I didnt see this last time, theres a number of reasons for failure of our guard bands for wafers. Mainly particle counts, thickness, and resistivity. Being the main supplier to Intel and T.I., our process is much more refined and requires Grade 1 specs in order to ship. Grade 1 is the best of the best, 100% perfect. If they fail a grade 1 inspection, there are still companies who will take them due to the above properties falling within there guidelines....basically sh*ttier quality=Cheaper. We also will rework the wafers by first giving them a nice HCL acid gas bath to remove excess particles, and then putting them in the reactor for a etch cycle. Growing silicon on a Susceptor is a pretty neat process, with the engineer manipulating thickness and resistance on every batch. No 2 wafers are alike, and 1 adjustment will affect all around properties. The machines I work on a daily basis with are mostly multi-million dollar pieces of equipment, except for the laptops which are based on Intel Chips We don't do business with AMD nor WILL we do business with AMD. We ALL feel AMD blows goats for pocket change. AMD doesnt use Grade 1 wafers' in all of the manu. processes like that of Intel. In the Epitaxial/Reactor Lab I work in is the real money maker,the total equipment costs are in the High 700 million dollar range. The floor was raised 6 inches last year, that alone was 30 million, 6 inches reduced particle counts, and saved on cooling costs. Ambient Year Round Temp: 65f Serious business.....and yes these things make EXCELLENT frisbees. T.RoW
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Post by TRow on Jun 27, 2004 7:17:11 GMT -5
BTW TRow I ordered a Dell 19" Ultrasharp FP today. I just couldn’t stand you having 3+ inches more than me. So I settled on the 19", 1 inch difference, I can live with that... 1901FP has 25ms seek time, and has some apparent ghosting,streaking. I had a 1801FP which is based on same 25ms seek technology for about 3 days, the ghosting in FPshooters was sickening, though I didn't get a chance to use the MonsterCables DVi's to see the difference. RMA'd it and never looked back. The 2001FP has recieved a LOT of praise, and is made by LG Philips and has 16ms seek time. But it all depends on your applications. If you got the dough, which I know you do, Id get the 2001FP and some MonsterCable DVi's. To tell you the truth, I wish I wouldve just purchased a Bigger CRT with better Dot Pitch, I started out with the m992 FlatScreen CRT, LOVED it, but started to wonder about how the "other" half lived. My accuracy went down a bit, with the LCD. Yet alone my card's inability to support 1184x864 with AAx4 AFx8. www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1918"We are very pleased to pronounce the 2001FP our new big LCD champion over the Samsung 191T and 192T." Anandtech I read the above article just moments before ordering a 2001FP. TRoW "RMA the 19, youll thank me in August and September " *hint,hint
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Post by bubbadubba on Jun 27, 2004 13:32:41 GMT -5
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Post by TRow on Jun 27, 2004 14:03:14 GMT -5
graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20040609/index.htmlI still say the Dell 2001 FP, remember that the 2001FP is manufactured by LG Philips. LG in my book are still the Crown Pimps of the millisecond Seektime race. That, and I gotta a Grand invested in it. graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20040609/lcd_review-02.htmlThough they rip it for games, this sounds like a perfect match for your needs. Dont skimp on the DVi cables! Buy them, Put old cables in Box, take them back. You just saved 100 bucks! ....oops did I say that? Bestbuy lies anyway.. ======================================= BenQ's 12ms Seektime LCD is better for gaming, but who wants a 17inch LCD? Id rather be sitting on 20's... T.RoW
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Post by dano104 on Jun 27, 2004 15:27:38 GMT -5
Dell's 2001fp would be my choice as well.
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Post by dan39 on Jun 28, 2004 3:09:52 GMT -5
like mentioned dell does make nice lcds, if you havent already, sign up for the dell small business and dell home emails, they email out coupon codes that you can use to get a good deal on one. also im pretty sure dell does make their fp's they just use the LG panel, kind of like how corsair would use samsung modules or whatever else. same sort of thing, i believe.
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