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Post by avsforsberg21 on Aug 25, 2004 4:37:19 GMT -5
I have an XPS Gen 2 and I never got the memory sensor to work. I got the same results of -120+. The other two are running fine so I live with it.
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Post by crusier on Aug 25, 2004 11:32:39 GMT -5
Looking at olde pics I think this was in....follow the little yellow arrows. Mbm5 likes to give the weird readings at times, tho I seldom if ever had a problem. Most usually required a uninstall and complete deletion of the program folder. I have run into issues with other motherboards where selection of the sensor as a diode, a transistor, or a thermistor resolved it. The manufacturer pdf for the adm1027 is at www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/Data_Sheets/284687590ADM1027_a.pdf
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Post by crusier on Aug 25, 2004 11:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by crusier on Aug 27, 2004 23:32:14 GMT -5
Well I'm chasing the MBM5 install and it's erratic as usual! Currently I uninstalled it, folder and all, and went thru some whoops working out the configuration and....and...I ended up having to install version 5.3.4.0 and then reinstalling it again before running it ( I did this on the last pass with the ini settings from my old install ). The second install gave me the option to install the I/O which wasn't being done on the initial install. Attempts to run MBM5 without the double install resulted in 'privilidged instruction' errors or 'failed to start the service' errors. I did an install of 5.3.7.0 over the 5.3.4.0 without an uninstall and set the temp visual settings using the non ADM1027-x inputs and it still displays all three temps plus the hdd temp just fine. I'll go thru it all again and try to get the correct config options for the XPS WHL motherboard option to fly. As things are the configuration does not specify the T3_ sensor. is: <Temperature T1_Name="Case" T1_Sensor="457" T1_Tray="1" T2_Name="CPU" T2_Sensor="458" T2_Tray="1" /> to: <Temperature T1_Name="ADM1027" T1_Sensor="457" T1_Tray="1" T2_Name="CPU" T2_Sensor="458" T2_Tray="1" T3_Name="MEM" T3_sensor="459" T3_Tray="1" />
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Post by crusier on Aug 28, 2004 3:42:55 GMT -5
I did manage to get the config working for the three sensors and they displayed by default on the taskbar, however I had issues with the core voltages and the 3.3vdc. I regrouped and started again but ran into the usual install problems but finally managed to get my MBM5 all kosher again with the patched configuration removed. When I get some time I'll start the whole process over again till it comes out right. The 5.3.7.0 MBM5.xml file has an XPS(all) config that prevents the XPS WHL configuration applying. The XPS WHL was a configuration based on initial settings sent to Alex when I first got the program to run on the XPS here. The only reference to a model identification I could find was on the rear label which showed a 'WHL'. He he....That's a reference to the UL specification. I always seem to do the 'dance' when getting MBM5 reinstalled and operating to my configuration. The dance includes copying files from a saved image over those generated in an install. As a side note. there are issues in doing an uninstall/install and even in doing an install over a current install; not to mention doing an install of a lower version over a current install. For general information the Dell 400sc seems to be identical to the XPS for sensors. Hmmmm.... I always liked absolute defines over auto detect and configuration in the clutch.
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Post by crusier on Aug 28, 2004 4:37:18 GMT -5
Ambient 20C, Vantec hdd cooler on lo When working full: When working @2lines:
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Post by buzsaw on Aug 28, 2004 9:13:20 GMT -5
cruiser, At this point it may be obvious but I have to ask for my own curiosity. Are you spending all this time and effort to recreate the adm1027 sensor prob?
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Post by crusier on Aug 28, 2004 15:44:22 GMT -5
Just looking for an overall resolution of the issue of -128 peeps are experiencing for sensor3. The misnomer on the 5.3.7.0 temp sensor label may look minor but it's not. The environment chips are id'd by information embedded by the manufactuerer and determine the sensors available ( per the chip/system ) and what values to use to derive the actual readings. per the chipinfo.ini 45=Analog Devices ADM1027
the ADT7460/7463 is listed as 67!!! 67=ADM ADT7460/7463 which could lead to incorrect information
PS If it's an issue I could just delete all the messages and go my way?
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Post by avsforsberg21 on Aug 28, 2004 16:44:18 GMT -5
Cruiser,
It sounds like 5.3.7 fixed your problem. I am running 5.3.6 and have the -128 reading on the memory. I have an XPS Gen2 Will installing 5.3.7 over my current version correct the problem? I got a little lost on the posts and would appreciate a step by step if possible. Thanks for time, effort, and contribution to forums.
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Post by buzsaw on Aug 28, 2004 19:35:50 GMT -5
cruiser, it is in no way an issue! I'm the same way, I sink my teeth into something I'm not done till it's right. cudos to you! and like avsforsberg said, THANK YOU.
I'm running 5.3.7 and have the -128 reading had it also while running 5.3.6 amd did the complete removal deal to no avail.
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Post by crusier on Aug 29, 2004 2:02:23 GMT -5
It's a bit fuzzy in all the wrong places but alas it appears it is sad news time and you are missing the surface mount components for that sensor. I marked the components that are mounted on my system here (XPS gen1), in the pics I posted earlier and updated them, in blue rectangles ( to see them just display the pics page and do a refresh of the page ). The two surface mount components at the adm1027 chip are marked clearly in the first pic and a bit poorly on the second pic. There is a three point surface mount ( I assume it's a standard transistor ) at the end 3 pads to the left and a single small surface component mounted vertically at the two pads just to the right of that triangle mount point. The transistor would be used as the temperature sensor and the other components as noise filtering/continuity of the sensor circuit signal. I don't know that DELL would replace the motherboard for missing the sensor as it may have been a change in their production. If indeed it is missing the components you could attempt to get a replacement. No guarantees on your success but it may be worth the effort. That sensor appears to have been added during the production of earlier workstations that were running hot in that area. One of the workstation manuals I dl'd showed a small fan mounted just to the front of the memory sticks. I think the holes n tabs are still there for them....he...he. That sensor would give you an idea of the airflow up in the top right corner. Your memory sticks are located there and it may be an issue. The adm1027 temp here ( with the heatsink fans blowing in and up ) goes up due to the heat being blown off the heatsink and the heatpipes going to the fins. The MEM sensor here has show problems in keeping that area cooled in various arrangements I tried. Mind you it's probably nothing super critical that I recall but it's nice to have needed airflow in all those nooks n crannys.
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Post by dvsravin on Sept 29, 2005 18:41:43 GMT -5
will MBM5 work with a GEN 5?
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Post by unknowngod430 on Sept 29, 2005 21:18:06 GMT -5
doesn't work with the gen 4's so chances are probably not..
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Post by opusx100 on Mar 20, 2006 23:12:10 GMT -5
Is there a program that I can purchase to monitor CPU temp on my XPS600? It was purchased a month ago.
I have tried MBM5, Everest Home, and Speedfan with no luck.......
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Post by dankknd on Nov 13, 2006 21:20:56 GMT -5
I have a gen 3 and I can't seem to find the sensors in the drop down box.... the only sensor I have is the Harddrive sensor. does 5.3.70 work with Gen 3?
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