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Post by lanraider on Nov 8, 2004 20:12:37 GMT -5
Thanks T.Row. You're awsome Hey guys. Here's the pic. I'm going to add another fan. I saw what looked like an empty 80mm fan cage at the front of the case, am I correct? Oh, the ambient temp is about 73F. Later
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Post by paulchiu on Nov 8, 2004 20:30:34 GMT -5
lanraider,
That's one cool looking fan controller. I thought at first it was a hard drive caddy....
Did you managed to connect all the internal fan connectors with this device?
Paul
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Post by lanraider on Nov 9, 2004 0:23:31 GMT -5
No Paul. Only used the 3 temp probes. I thought about using the unit's controllers, but when I read that some mobos shut down if there is no cpu fan connected (and you know Dell is one of them), I lost my nerve So I don't get to see one of the coolest features of this unit, the rotating fan blades in the center of the display. But I'll hook up the new fan for sure. Hey rumble, thanks for confirming about the fan cage. Bet it won't be empty in the GEN4 I bowl tomorrow night, so I probably won't be on. So I'll talk at you guys Wednesday. Later
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Post by munski on Mar 10, 2005 20:08:39 GMT -5
lan -
Keep them photos comming! Is that fan in the background for the xps or the keyboard? (Ha!)
munski
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Post by paulchiu on Mar 10, 2005 23:57:52 GMT -5
I added a SATA hot swappable caddy! Now, unlimited storage and none of the "slowness" of an external storage device. The 4th 400GB is as fast as the other 3 internals..... Powering these displays. Life is GOOD ! Dell XPS Gen3 P4 3.6 XP Pro 4 GB DDR2 PC4200 X800 XT 256 MB PCI-E 800 GB RAID 0 400 GB Disk 3 SATA disk caddy with 400 GB Disk 4 Audigy 2 Dell 2001FP 20" LCD 2 HP L2335 23" LCDs X-Hifi XDC-1 2.1 Speaker System Musical Fidelity X-Can V3 Tube Headphone Amplifier Senheisser 650 Headphones
12/27/2004 3DMark05 5181 ATI Driver 6.14.10.6476
12/27/2004 3DMark05 5512 ATI Driver 6.14.10.6497
03/08/2005 3DMark05 5650 ATI Driver 6.14.10.6512 + BIOS A04
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Post by lanraider on Mar 11, 2005 21:29:09 GMT -5
Hey munski, Don’t laugh…but at one point, I actually had the case cracked open, with the fan blowing directly inside. As for the keyboard, it’s not there anymore. My 18 month old grandson has confiscated it…It’s taking a beating but surprisingly, it’s holding up well Paul, That is an awesome hdd caddy! I’ve been reading up on those. Can the Cartridge be taken out and used as an external? Great photos also. Did you bounce the flash or just use long exposure times? Btw, I have the same DVD player, the Pioneer DV-563A. The price was unbelievable. You have an awesome set up there. I am green with envy Later guys
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Post by paulchiu on Mar 12, 2005 2:17:48 GMT -5
raider,
yeah, the cartridge can be taken out even while the computer is on. If you have an external USB, SCSI, or SATA box connected to another computer or server, this task can be done.
$119 for that at COMPUSA last year. Think it's out of print now....
Paul
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Post by munski on Mar 12, 2005 12:03:39 GMT -5
lanraider, I stuck this 80x25mm NMB fan in the air splitter cage, www.sidewindercomputers.com/nmb80ulqubr3.htmlmoved my sound card to the bottom PCI slot & left off the other PCI covers so the fan blows straight thru. It's unbelieveably quiet & I can't hear anything from the front intake. A Panaflo L1A would give you a little more air flow & would be dead quiet also. 80x25mm fans just pop & lock right in the black cage and don't rattle around even at high speeds. Unless some of the XPS boys with the P4 Extreme Ed. cpu's have Dell fans here, I've only seen 'em installed in the XPS 360 dual processor workstations. munskiman
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Post by paulchiu on Mar 12, 2005 13:59:19 GMT -5
Munskiman,
Just what were you trying to achieve? Noiseless Gen 3? Where is this extra fan? When you moved the ATI card, it's not the PCI-Express version, is it?
Did you go ahead and replace all the Dell XPS Gen 3 fans? How quiet is it now?
Thanks
Paul
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Post by munski on Mar 12, 2005 14:47:49 GMT -5
Paul, Nope, just added 3 more fans to the existing ones inside the case. My main goal is to drop the internal temps of all the heat producing components without adding more noise or voiding my Dell warranty. Everything I do to my XPS Gen3 has to be reversable back to the stock configutation. I took out the rear green CPU shroud, reversed the bottom Delta fan so both would exhaust and hung two extra 80x25mm Panaflo L1A's in front of the open heatsink to draw air in from the front (over the HDD's) and push it thru the HS to the big Deltas. It keeps them from reving up to high (and loud) speed when the cpu is working hard. Some XPS's have 92x38mm Dell Nidec fans here, but mine came with Deltas. Both these fans use non-standard 4 pin wire connections to the motherboard and can't be swapped out for just anything unless you run different fans off an extra fan/temp controller unit. In which case you'll have Bios alert warnings on start up. Check around this site for additional info on this. I also took off the green shroud in the front intake area to help increase air flow around the HDD's, and have been getting great temp readings so far. I might add that taking off any or all of the shrouds will INCREASE the fan & HDD noise thru the front vent, so extra cooling and noise are always a trade off. My X800 video card has to stay in the assigned PCI Express slot, but I moved my Audigy sound card to the bottom slot so I could open up the empty pci slots in the back for more flow-thru. It's easy to stick an 80x25mm fan in the air splitter cage since Dell already provided for it. (check photo in my last post). This fan may not be necessary when I install my ArcticCooling Silencer 4 to the X800 Radeon video card - we'll see.
hope this helps, munski
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Post by paulchiu on Mar 12, 2005 16:35:33 GMT -5
I'd wondered about that reverse facing fan and many on the web have speculated as to what it's for. Many think it actually helps reduce dust accumulation on the CPU and center the cooling just on the processor. Since that shrout has that glued on black pad, Dell intends for the reverse fan to not have air interaction with the heat sink, but rather create a vacuuming affect for the sole opening to the outside from the snk with that top fan.
If you look, the internal of the XPS has a lot less dust than other Dell's with the same usage.
How are you monitor the temperature of the hard drives, as you have added fans in front of them? I would love to do that myself as my video wk makes the disks active more often than most users.
Do you think replacing the Dell stock fans will drive the noise floor lower?
Paul
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Post by lanraider on Mar 13, 2005 13:31:49 GMT -5
munski, I'm eager to see what kind of temps you're getting with that set up.
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Post by lanraider on Mar 13, 2005 13:39:17 GMT -5
munski,
Nevermind, I found your temps posted in "Fan experiment". Great job, Dr. Frankenberry! ;D
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