Acceptable temps on a XPS 600

[zbestwun2001]

What are the acceptable running temps on this system.

I don't game, but I use alot of Adobe products, and nulti task regularly.

I have the intel 650 chip.

Running in the 60's C.

Thanks

[gamer135]

60 degree's C is very high to tell you the truth, im sure someone else who has this series because i have the 1st generation but i would ask dell for some support because that processor should not be at 60's C. I did to cool off my processor is putting in some fans with high CFM's, which cool of my processor even when its loaded but that just me.

I bet someone else can help you hear, but definitely thoose temps are too high.

[unknowngod430]

how are you monitoring them?

[Zefram0911]

I honestly don't think 60C is that high for the XPS600s.

[unknowngod430]

60C isn't acceptable at all. the temp threshold isn't too much over that before you start causing serious hurt on u're computer talk to dell, cuz thats especially high for no gaming. how are you checking u're temps though? however never the less i would be wary of temps that high

[unknowngod430]

60c under load... unfortunately using photoshop and stuff shouldn't bring it to load. thats what im worried about it's at 60s under medium usage and chances are the bios has the computer restart at somewhere around 70-75 thats the threshold i was talking about.. and considering most people have idle temps around the mid 30s

[crusier]

Once again....what are you measuring the temperatures with and where.........what other system components are installed?
You can get cpu thermal design information off the Intel website and general comparative temperatures off the computer enthusiast sites on the internet.
Different components used in the system have different thermal limits and you will likely have to check various component temperatures under idle and load conditions. Then go from there if your going to work with the cooling. It doesn't sound as if your amenable to system crashes and loss of data per the 'what you run on it'.
Areas of concern: internal chassis, hdds, vid cards, cpu, mosfet power regulators, soundcard, burners while burning, and mem sticks.
A possible quick and dirty configuration is with the chassis on it's side and you can then try cracking the side panel at up to say 2-4 inches and also try locationg the chassis at the floor level at a point where it gets cool airflow (e.g. just under a window).
From there you get to figure if and what to try to get the system cooling to operate at a satisfactory level.
That's easily 250 plus watts your trying to operate in that box while maintaining an acceptable temperature range for all the compnents (my gen1 is a cakewalk in comparison hehe).

[zbestwun2001]

Sorry for taking so long to get back ....

First I used Everest and it gave me a temp of 42 which must be F not C.

MBM says -1C

Then I used Speed Fan and it gave me that highter reading.

Just downloaded Everest New Trial Edition and it says 45 C.

I know Everst to be fairly reliable

Suggestions?
Better app to measure temp suggestions?

I am pretty sure I am ok but want to check.,

Thanks all

[unknowngod430]

oh if it's only at 45C at idle.. then u're fine. I thought u were at like 60 IDLE

i envy the fact that you have temp sensors on u're mobo

[zbestwun2001]

Differnet apps give different read outs.

Whats the best app to find the temps?

Thanks

[zbestwun2001]

I just found that that no XPS 600 has sensor on the hd.

[onin]

These things might help, its fairly easy to hide the tempsensor/cables, and its cheap too

www.frozencpu.com/tmp-09.html
www.frozencpu.com/tmp-02.html

[crusier]

Try mbm5 and ticky both the scan for ide and the scan for scsi. You can also try downloading the HDD manufacturer's utility program to display the hdd stats and any thermals.

[zbestwun2001]

OK guys
Thanks for working with me...I enable SMART on my BIOS that enables my CPU temp sensor.

I am getting a reading of -1C on my only hd

So I am pretty cool I guess

thanks guys

and if you need any help on spy-ware removal in the future I am easily found at the Dell Forum on the HiJackThis board.

Later guys

Enjoy this awesome system!

[crusier]

Minus 1C is a bad reading.

[zbestwun2001]

I agree.

Must be the dummy that is mis configuring that program!


I'll give him a swift kick!

[zbestwun2001]

OK, I called Dell XPS the other day. I asked them point blank, what is SAFE range for this temp to be.

He looked it up and said 40 something to 60 something.

I said OK, I am running in the hi 60's and I don't want to smoke this hd or damage anything else. He asked what I am measuring this temp with and I told him the different apps that were giving me the same reading. He tried to dismissed the apps that I was using saying they were not backed by Dell, and I said what app is? NONE.

He said, and this kind of pissed me off, that I had 2 years on this particular warranty left, and if anything happens I am covered. I told him that was not the point. The point was I want to AVOID something happening.

Long story short, he had no answers for me that I didn't already know. So WTF am I suppose to do guys? Worry, or what?

[unknowngod430]

i hate to say it but that's dell for you now a days. for some reason they don't like actually helping their customers.. the problem i had happened in november but they documented it as a misdirected call so when it happened again a day outta warrenty they kept saying"well if it happened under warrenty maybe we could do something"

keep badgering them. tell them it keeps restarting and giving you a tempurature error when it restarts. also remind them that the readings are coming from the sensors on THEIR motherboard keep pushing it eventually they'll give in. as to speak to managers and supervisors , you're under warrenty so they HAVE to help you.

[crusier]

Hit developer.intel.com/products/processor/index.htm
and chase down the thermal specifications and different cooling recommendations they have for your processor. You can also get/run a cpu throttling detection program to see if yoru system is taking a hit. As always drivers and errata on all of your system components is a good place to start your researching. 60C under load is likely not to be an issue with the latter day cpus. In the end it comes down to what you consider acceptable and realizing that any changes to the system effectively void the warranty/extended service conditions.
Drivers are always an issue!!!!

[zbestwun2001]

My question to you guys here is what can I expect them to do? I mean I have no problem grinding on them, I am nice about it...but what are the alternatives that they seem hesitant on taking.

I don't really want to configure a new hard drive, and besides that what is to say that a new drive would run any cooler in this system.

Right now I am at 68C under really NO load. I am going to run 3DMarkO5 and see how high that jacks this up just doing their diagnostics.

Again, what should I tell Dell that I want done to alleviate this problem short of a new drive.

thanks

Steve